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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: We always need God but when does...
Waterlight wrote:
Ok so we all need god and pretty much we take advantage of him and his will and everything else he offers us every day.
So when does GOD need us:?:
All i want is a straight answer and reasonable one too.
hmm i would say that He doesnt need us. He is all powerful, all knowing, and is present everywhere. he uses us at times to accomplish His plan but i would say He doesnt NEED such a frail, venal, and sorry species that humans are.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: We always need God but when does...
L7 wrote:
Waterlight wrote:
Ok so we all need god and pretty much we take advantage of him and his will and everything else he offers us every day.
So when does GOD need us:?:
All i want is a straight answer and reasonable one too.
hmm i would say that He doesnt need us. He is all powerful, all knowing, and is present everywhere. he uses us at times to accomplish His plan but i would say He doesnt NEED such a frail, venal, and sorry species that humans are.
Well, I understand the immediate thinking behind God not "needing" us, but I'm not sure that's giving God's creation enough credit.
God does need to us to a large extent. We've been commanded to "go" and make fishers of all men. He needs us to spread His message to the world. Now, if I don't do that, He'll find someone who will. And my eternity is in my hands. It's an interesting question and one that I probably have taken for granted for far too long. It's nice to think about.
I'll be giving this some more thought. In the meantime, I found this on a Catholic site (I'm not Catholic so I stripped out some of the wording and left the pure scripture in so we could all relate to this, but I really liked it.).
God does not “need” us in the sense that he is somehow dependent on us or incomplete without us. But God does desire us. More precisely, God desires to give himself to us. C.S. Lewis said it beautifully, “In God there is no hunger that needs to be filled; only plenteousness that desires to give.” The yearning of God for man is illustrated in the story of Adam and Eve who, after eating the forbidden fruit hid themselves from God. Not abandoning them to sin, however, God sought them, saying, “Where are you?” In the fullness of time, God became man to seek and save the lost (Lk 19:10). Expressing his desire for each and every person, Jesus said to the woman at the well, “Give me something to drink” (Jn 4:7).
Well, I understand the immediate thinking behind God not "needing" us, but I'm not sure that's giving God's creation enough credit.
God does need to us to a large extent. We've been commanded to "go" and make fishers of all men. He needs us to spread His message to the world. Now, if I don't do that, He'll find someone who will. And my eternity is in my hands. It's an interesting question and one that I probably have taken for granted for far too long. It's nice to think about.
I'll be giving this some more thought. In the meantime, I found this on a Catholic site (I'm not Catholic so I stripped out some of the wording and left the pure scripture in so we could all relate to this, but I really liked it.).
God does not “need” us in the sense that he is somehow dependent on us or incomplete without us. But God does desire us. More precisely, God desires to give himself to us. C.S. Lewis said it beautifully, “In God there is no hunger that needs to be filled; only plenteousness that desires to give.” The yearning of God for man is illustrated in the story of Adam and Eve who, after eating the forbidden fruit hid themselves from God. Not abandoning them to sin, however, God sought them, saying, “Where are you?” In the fullness of time, God became man to seek and save the lost (Lk 19:10). Expressing his desire for each and every person, Jesus said to the woman at the well, “Give me something to drink” (Jn 4:7).
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